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        If anyone is in any doubt if the DSCP has any objectives other than income,
            this should clear things up. This is almost certainly the most ridiculous speed
            enforcement ever set up, anywhere. Is this a "toys out of the pram" reaction to the
            fiasco at Chideock, perhaps? 
          
        Please email your thoughts about this, positive or negative: info@dorsetspeed.org.uk . Don't just leave it to others, a good number of complaints will make a strong case that this operation is a failure and cannot be continued or introduced elsewhere. 
 Please contribute to the online news article, Lights, camera – and action over speeding drivers in Poole
 
          
        From 1st July 2009, "Speed on green" speed enforcement will start on the Holes Bay
        road at the junction with Sterte Road. 
          
        This has one of the most inappropriate and therefore widely ignored 30 limits in
        the area. It is not an accident blackspot, and yet it will be enforced with rigid
        30 detection 24 hours a day. The income generated will be huge, the benefit to road
        safety virtually nothing. 
          
        So far, there has been little publicity about this, DSCP seems to be trying to introduce
        this “on the quiet” so they can rack up huge numbers
        of fines before people start
        to realise what’s happening.
        
     
          
        If their aims were to reduce speed, they would obviously be shouting load about
        this, making it clear that the red light cameras will be triggering for speeds a
        tiny percentage over 30, but the quiet introduction can only mean that their aims
        are financial (we already know this of course, but this is a completely new level
        of highway robbery). This seems to have been also introduced to coincide with increased
        holiday traffic. The DSCP seems not to care a bit that it is completely obvious that they are only aiming for maximum possible numbers of fines.
        
     
          
        Meanwhile, standards of driving and real accident rates continue to deteriorate.
        Driving through this junction at 40 is normally about as safe as you could possibly
        be. In contrast, dangerous driving of all types which actually directly causes the
        bad accidents so frequently seen on our roads is ignored, obviously, because the
        work / profit ratios are not so attractive.
        
     
          
        Mostly for the sake of those who are killed and seriously injured, who would not
        be if efforts were properly focused on the real problems instead of numbers of fines,
        this has got to stop. This will further damage the relationship and support of the decent public for the Police and the law, and 
        reduce the respect for speed limits (including the ones which are reasonable) and other road safety efforts.
        
     
          
          
          
        This is a seriously wide open road, anything below 50 is likely to be completely
        safe
        (certainly in the middle of the night when deserted). 
          
        Here is the nearby junction at PC world, which has a 50 limit, but is more busy,
        with wait to turn right areas within the junction, and less pedestrian friendly, 
        with hardly any barriers and no crossing over the main road, even though the 
        road runs through a busy shopping area with PC World, Currys, etc. on one side, 
        and B+Q, Staples, etc. on the other side. Here is the proof that speed
        limits seem to be "picked out of a bag" rather than based on the characteristics
        of the roads, and that rigid enforcement of the silliest limits is therefore about
        profit, not safety. 
          
          
          
          
        Confirmation from a freedom of information request about this operation: 
        "There are Speed on Green cameras installed for both North &
            South cameras at the
            
            A350 Holes Bay Road
            , these cameras will detect vehicles travelling through the junction in excess of
            30 mph with effect 1st July." 
        Press release on the DSCP web site:  
          
         
            
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                            ****PRESS RELEASE**** 
                              
                         
                            - Dorset Safety Camera Partnership - 
                            Casualty Prevention Through Speed Enforcement at
                         
                            Traffic Light Junctions
                         
                         
                        As part of the drive to meet the Government target of a 40% reduction in the number
                        of people killed or seriously injured in road collisions by 2010, the Dorset Safety
                        Camera Partnership (DSCP) will be starting to conduct speed enforcement at traffic
                        light junctions from 1st July 2009. 
                     
                        Following Home Office Type Approval for ‘Speed on Green’ safety cameras, the red
                        light safety cameras which previously only monitored vehicle non-compliance with
                        a red signal at traffic lights, will now also be used to enforce compliance with
                        the speed limit of vehicles crossing junctions on a green signal. 
                     
                        Johnny Stephens, Head of Fixed Penalties at the Dorset Safety Camera Partnership
                        comments: "We have been conducting trials at various traffic light junctions in
                        Dorset, the results have not been used for enforcement purposes but have alerted
                        us to the alarming number of vehicles speeding whilst crossing the junctions. Exceeding
                        the speed limit through a traffic light junction is extremely dangerous and this
                        initiative is designed to ensure that collisions are prevented by ensuring that
                        drivers abide with legal and appropriate speeds." 
                     
                        DSCP is working with the manufacturers of the cameras and the Borough of Poole Council,
                        who are in the process of making necessary changes to the existing red light safety
                        camera junctions. This will involve minor disruption to the roads and drivers will
                        notice that there are now secondary check lines on the road at applicable junctions. 
                     
                        A list of the junctions where Speed on Green safety cameras are in use will be available
                        on the DSCP website from 1st July -www.dorsetsafetycameras.org.uk.
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