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Points for discussion at TAG meeting, 24th
Feb, 2011
Following some communications with Ron Parker, I was invited to present some
points for the TAG meeting.
Here were my initial points:
1.
Dorset, despite some
of the lowest tolerance speed camera enforcements and most severe speed limit
reductions is among the worst performing counties in casualty reduction.
Speeding is only
one of many driving problems, and cameras detect the wrong types of speeders,
typically mature, safe drivers, often with unblemished driving records for 20
years+, a small amount above limits which have been reduced well below the
natural safe speed for the road. They are predictable, either fixed or mobile,
so do not effect those who want to speed, either (in some cases safely) because
they now find some limits impractical, or because they are dangerous speeders,
racers, criminals, etc., as they have 99.9% of road space available to do what
they want, and all they have to do is to not go past yellow boxes and stripy
vans above the limit, it’s not hard. From these simple starting points, the
claimed benefit in casualty reduction of speed cameras looks, and actually is,
totally implausible. But speed cameras and ever reducing limits have completely
dominated efforts to reduce deaths (or so we are told).
2. It seems that the unsatisfactory
reductions in casualties that seem somewhat inevitable to many observers has
resulted in massively increasing the dose of the wrong medicine rather than
looking for a medicine that works. Limits are being used now just as a way to
have less serious accidents, rather than to define a sensible maximum safe
speed, and actually working on accident prevention by properly addressing the
primary causes. This results in limits that really have become too low for
normal safe drivers, such as Holes Bay, Dorset / Canford Way, Wessex Way, even
when the higher previous limit was not being properly respected / enforced. This
increases accidental and deliberate speeding, reduced respect of law and limits,
and escalates the whole unfortunate situation. DfT guidance recognises the
danger of inappropriately low limits and warns against this.
3. The probability and severity of
impact is dependant not only on the speed immediately prior to the situation
developing, but also how far ahead that situation was seen and avoidance
started, i.e. attention and anticipation, probably the 2 most fundamental,
important qualities of a good driver. It’s easy to spot an inattentive driver.
If I was going to fall off my bike, I’d prefer to have drivers around me driving
up to 70, but watching the road, keeping a safe distance and thinking about what
they need to reduce speed for, than driving at 50 and thinking that’s all they
need to do to be safe. Just imagine the effectiveness of a campaign that shows a
driver thinking “what can go wrong” as he drives down the road.
4. When do you take most notice of
your speedo? Is it when you’re going past a speed camera, or a busy school? I
don’t look at my speedo at all when I’m going past a busy school, and that
doesn’t mean I’m doing more than 20. There’s just more important things to look
for. In fact most of the time, more than 10 would be insane. And when the school
is empty 40 might be entirely safe. You simply can’t micro-manage every inch of
every road with the huge dynamic variations, with speed limits. You have to rely
on drivers knowing what is appropriate, to some extent, and in reality,
enforcement will never detect a large proportion of all problems in all places.
Therefore, you must enthuse and encourage safe driving both where there are and
are not enforcements, rather than treat all drivers like naughty children,
“Caught – no excuse”. Rigid enforcement of arbitrary limits which the driver can
see no reason for is anti-productive and therefore dangerous. Driver psychology
is obviously a critical factor and to work against it is seriously irresponsible
and damaging.
5. Sadly, it could not be possible
for DRS to have more effectively demonstrated that all it ever does is about
making money. The insistence that it is only concerned with saving lives, in
total conflict with the nature of it’s operations, communications and
performance, and that it has continued in this way for so long, is shocking and
insulting to those who are and are not directly effected by road trauma. I’ve
lost count of the number of simple fundamental questions that DRS refuses to
answer, presumably as any answer can only start to reveal the truth.
6. While trusting everything to
DRS, the right things are not being done. Putting the responsibility with the
driver to think about anticipating what may happen ahead. Doing something about
the appalling standard of driving, inability to use sliproads properly, driving
too close, distraction, inattention, lack of respect / tolerance for other road
users, etc. Being smart about the future, developing new technology to help with
traffic enforcement of a wide range of problems AND flow management, reducing
journey times, stress. I had no problem detecting 1 problem a minute with a
camcorder, the opportunities are vast. None of these things will make a fast
buck, but will bring financial rewards through proper reduced accidents and
reduced wasted time on the roads. The only way to properly deliver effective
road safety is to consider financial benefit as a fortunate but guaranteed side
effect, rather than a primary (and possibly exclusive) reason.
7. We need to use the precious few
resources we can afford in the very best way. We must observe and identify the
most abundant and serious real driving problems, and target them properly. It
will be much better to do a small amount of the right thing rather than
continuing to do more and more of the wrong thing. There is poor speed limit
compliance away from cameras, so they are pointless and we must not spend
another penny on them. Intelligent people on the road and new technologies are
the way forward and as a technology expert and having taken a great interest in
road safety, I would be very happy to contribute more.
The response can be seen here:
http://ha2.boroughofpoole.com/committeedocuments/agendas_minutes_reports_get_file.asp?f=%2Fcommitteepdf%2Freport%2Ftransportation+advisory+group%2Ftag240220113+road+safety+issues%2Edoc%2Epdf
Here was my reply:
Many thanks for the consideration of my points and
responses raised. I’d like to raise some responses in reply:
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On the point of performance, the data you provide
does not look so bad. Can you explain the apparent conflict with the reports I
found (quoted below)? When I mentioned “lowest tolerance speed camera
enforcements” I referred not to the speed threshold, but to the choice of
enforcement operations, for example mobile and fixed cameras used on recently
reduced 30 limit non-residential, dual carriageways. 20% over a realistically
set limit is not insignificant, but over for example, the 30 limit on Holes bay,
Upton Road, or Old Wareham Road dual carriageways, favourite locations for
Dorset Road Safe to deploy their limited resources, is rather insignificant. If
these resources had been used on residential streets, they would still have been
ignored by hardened speeders but at least those who would have been caught would
have deserved it.
While stopping drivers for not wearing seatbelts, or
holding phones, is of some value, really, you can be just as distracted by any
number of other things (including fiddling with dashboard mounted sat navs /
phones etc) as holding a phone and not wearing a belt is not going to increase
the probability of causing an accident (indeed it might reduce it due to the
feeling of vulnerability). I was hoping you might have said that dangerous
overtakers, those who simply can’t use sliproads properly, tailgaters, etc. i.e
the things that really cause accidents, would be targeted. I don’t think they
are, probably because these things are more difficult to prosecute successfully
– i.e. the wrong reasons.
While you have identified a number of road user
groups, you do have not mentioned what you are doing about them. So, we are left
with enforcements tuned for quantity, not quality, even if not only for
speeding.
“Since 2006 there has been a
disappointing increase in KSI casualties. The county is currently 10% below the
1994-98 KSI base figure, which is behind target and places Dorset in the lower
quartile of performance across GB.”
http://www.dorsetforyou.com/media.jsp?mediaid=139747&filetype=pdf
“In 2008, there were 442 road
casualties per 100,000 people in Dorset, the highest rate in SW counties and
unitaries (SW 368, England 397). Bournemouth (420) & Poole (403) had the 4th and
5th highest proportions, respectively, among South West county and unitary
authorities.”
http://www.gosw.gov.uk/497666/docs/220636/309014/dorsstatbrf.doc"
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Some of the recent limit reductions conflict not
only with DfT guidelines, but normal safe driving and common sense also. 50 on
the Dorset Way is as good as saying “we’ve completely given up on bad driving,
so we’re just going to try to get everyone to crash into each other a bit
slower”. If you ignore current guidance I suspect you will ignore any new
guidance from the coalition. While no-one is in any doubt that driving above the
speed limit is breaking the law, the simple fact is that in reality making
limits too low increases lawlessness without any benefit in return. I’m sure (I
hope) you are aware that picking instantaneous figures from 2 years really means
nothing statistically with such large variations.
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Of course, drivers have a wide range of
capabilities. But setting limits based on what will cause the lease possible
damage for the worst possible drivers under the worst possible conditions is
taking it too far. You only need a safe following distance for 70 to be entirely
safe on the Dorset Way. Tailgating etc. are not acceptable driving styles for
tired / drugged (prescription or otherwise) or any drivers. To allow this
dangerous behaviour on the road but try to reduce it’s effects by installing
unrealistic limits is a complete nonsense. And education will do nothing to
improve a driver who chooses to drive badly. Indeed, road safety is
complex, but all we are really seeing is some irritating signs and a few badly
chosen speed camera operations.
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Checking that you are driving within a 20 limit at a
school when a child is likely to step out from behind a car is completely,
totally, pointless, actually only dangerous. In this situation you should be
doing 10 or less. If you think you are safe because you are driving at 20 past a
school because the number in the circle says so, you should not be driving.
Speed limits simply can’t define some magical threshold of safety. And if you
think they do, as organisations like Dorset Road Safe tell us, you are not a
good driver. I’m sorry, but DRS is totally dominated by speed, speed, speed.
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I’m not so concerned with what has already been
wasted on DRS, that’s water under the bridge, I and the public do not want any
more of our money wasted on this. Dorset Road Safe are not, and have never been,
willing to respond to requests for information or to answer simple questions.
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If analysis is performed on casualty data that is
good, unfortunately there is little sign of this resulting in science in
accident prevention.
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I’m sorry, again, all we are seeing is speed limit
reductions beyond any stretch of reality or credibility, and badly chosen,
predictable, speed cameras. You ARE obsessed with speed and speeding. “looking
to develop a package of policies that will work for the vast majority of
motorists who drive responsibly, while targeting the actions of the deliberate
and dangerous few” THAT is exactly what we need, but we’re a million miles from
it right now.
As you can see this leaves little that looks good in
your responses. I think it’s unfortunate that there is no recognition whatsoever
of problems when it is so obvious that there are some (serious) ones.
I will therefore expect a further response to these
points, and as there is still no justification for speed cameras, none of my
council tax, or those of the many I represent, being spent on speed cameras.
No further reply of any kind has been received or seems likely.
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